Update from the
Heartland
No.620
28.10.13 – 3.11.13
Blog version: http://heartlandupdate.blogspot.com/
To all,
The follow-up news items:
-- We had a bevy of supposed Snowden disclosures [599 & sub] this week. While it continues to qualify in the
follow-up category, this perpetual story is wearing me out. I have also been involved in several
threads related to the Snowden betrayal.
This week, the threads below should be sufficient.
The first of the independent threats
began with this article:
“N.S.A. Said to Tap Google and Yahoo Abroad”
by Charlie Savage, Claire Cain Miller and Nicole Perlroth
New York Times
Published: October 30, 2013
“Well now Cap, what was I saying last week.”
My response:
These
incessant, trickled, Snowden disclosures are getting quite tiresome. We are trusting the Press in all
this. What means do they have to
validate the documents they are supposedly seeing? The vast majority of folks who are “shocked,” “disturbed,”
and “disgusted” (et al) about the extent of Allied espionage activities as
portrayed by the Press, have never seen actual classified material and even
further have never seen the raw data.
I’m getting to the point where I’m saying, oh yeah, you go boys. Allied intelligence should be looking
everywhere they can to find data – the more dots, the clearer the picture. Back in my day, just the names NSA,
NRO, et cetera were classified. I
want the collective Allied IC looking everywhere for clues. The bad guys in this war want to kill a
lot of innocent people; they are not out to rob a bank or steal a car. The issue for me has always been the
inappropriate, collateral use of intelligence data by politicos, moralists, over
zealous or unscrupulous prosecutors, Press, and any of the others who seek to
violate our fundamental right to privacy.
To me, our focus should be on proper reforms to filter the processing of
collected material rather than the collection process. The dilemma for me is, we are all
flawed people, and not everyone possesses the moral integrity to act properly
with raw data or lightly processed intelligence information, which is why most
folks should never be allowed access.
I still cannot believe a contractor like Snowden could gain access to
such material without someone noticing . . . I see him as a hacker who was
allowed inside the gates and even worse allowed to wander around at will.
Out
of curiosity, have you seen one of these actual so-called Snowden
documents? I haven’t. I am beginning to get suspicious of the
Press. It would be so easy for
them to make stuff up for their political purposes, or to be fooled by a clever
con-man who decided to peddle pseudo-documents that look real. How would they know authenticity? Because they got them from Snowden, or
Greenwald, or some other conduit.
It would be a perfect way to damage governments.
A follow-up comment:
“Cap, yes
indeed you do put a new slant to the entire farrago none of 'us' have seen
these damaging documents which are too sensitive to publish. I have found
nothing but reference to them.
“It is
reported that Snowden took 30,000 documents or copies of with him for disclosure
to anyone who would give him safe harbour. 30,000! As I hinted at earlier who
the hell was supervising this man, who allowed him to drive the ship onto the
rocks?
“Thanks for
your wishes for a good weekend, we have a Festival of Remembrance this evening,
this is a 'booted and spurred' event. Next weekend Ann and I are at 'The Albert
Hall' in London for the annual remembrance Legion event, we come back from that
in the early hours to our own event in the village. On the 11th November we
have our two minute silence at 11am with bugle playing the last post and
children from our primary school placing wooden crosses in the grass at the
village war memorial. There are 28 names from the two world wars. The
youngsters will have written the names of the fallen on each cross. It's a very
moving occasion. 28 names from a small village, heart wrenching. We still have
family names in the village that are descendants of the first and second world
wars.
“Get hold
of your traitors Cap and I'll take them to the war memorials and show them what
war and tyranny results in and how brainless and futile their traitorous acts
are.”
And, my follow-up response:
I
do not have a clue what can be done to stop the persistent trickle of Snowden
documents. I am finding it
progressively more troubling that we have no way to judge or validate the
veracity of Press reporting on this topic. I have been suspicious of The Guardian from the get-go.
Other newspapers have joined the frenzy. Yet, we are left in the trust-me mode. The government cannot or will not
validate the Snowden “documents.”
I guess the only way for the IC to respond is to go quiet, adapt to the
compromised environment, and get back to the business of finding the bad guys.
I
wish you the very best for your Remembrance ceremonies. I hope the appeal is bountiful. May God bless all our veterans who have
manned the gates of freedom.
I
have confidence the security services will get the traitors eventually. I also believe the traitors will feel
justice for their betrayal.
Another contribution to this related
topic:
“GCHQ and European spy agencies worked together on mass
surveillance – Edward Snowden papers unmask close technical cooperation and
loose alliance between British, German, French, Spanish and Swedish spy
agencies”
by Julian Borger
The Guardian
Published: Friday, 1 November 2013; 13.02 EDT
“Cap, certain you'll find this of interest especially para 5
and the last para. (it is a long doc mind).”
My response:
Thanks. It is nice to see The Guardian offered at least a modicum of balance to their
perception of the Intelligence Community. They are also persistent in
their desire for us to trust them with a fair and balanced assessment of the
IC. Thanks for sharing.
On a different topic and a new thread:
“Throw the Rascals Out?”
by Thomas Sowell
Published: Oct 29, 2013
My opinion:
As I have written numerous times in this humble forum, it is
an easy step to endorse Sowell’s argument, as it is my own, with only one
exception. He points the fickled
finger of fate at President Obama as if he was the only president who sought
more than one term, which we know not to be true. Nonetheless, throwing the rascals out would have positive
symbolic effect. However, as we
are all flawed men, I suspect the new rookies would be easy prey for the
permanent staffers and lobbyists with their footlockers of cash. Regardless, it would be a good
start. Somehow we must break the
cycle of corruption using earmarks, hidden amendments, buried language and many
other means of obfuscated spending.
Our next shot at this comes next year – 468 of the rascals will be up
for election. We must find the
will to throw the rascals out.
The contributor’s follow-up comment:
“As I mentioned to friends at lunch yesterday, while it
would be courageous and revolutionary to throw corrupted politicos out of
office and reboot, the years of upheaval and violence would not be pretty for
any of us. Our BIG GOV has tremendous resources to resist/crush any
insurrection and to maintain COG (Continuity of Government) even with the most
catastrophic physical fragmentation of government (e.g., nuke war). This might
explain the massive ammo purchases by just one agency the DHS.
“Your opinion [above]
is worthy, and well written. I've also previously mentioned that we'd better
know who to place in to the replaced slots, because power vacuums can be
chaotic and most unpredictable.
“I'd like to say the only way to do it is through our
electoral process/system, and hope that using that we end up with a better
situation in the future, though not so sure I trust the process/system nor the
ones that seem to rise to the top.”
My follow-up comment:
We
would not be attacking the USG, only exercising our right to vote in unison. Those Members of Congress might
interpret the mass action as a threat, but I do not see how the Supremes could
possibly support resistance to such an action. In any election, there would still be 67 senators remaining
in office, but the message certainly would be clear – we’ve had enough and
we’re not going to take it anymore.
That alone would alter behavior at least for a while. Even if we were not 100% successful in
any given election, the remainder would surely be looking over their shoulder,
as they would be next.
Yes,
we most assuredly should be careful and deliberate with our votes when we
decide upon replacements.
Re:
“power vacuum.” Yes, thus my
comment earlier about the near instantaneous increase in power & influence
to the congressional staffers and lobbyists. I almost feel anything would be better than what we have and
have had for the last few decades.
This juvenile nonsense must stop!
News from the economic front:
-- The U.S. Federal Reserve Open Market Committee made no
changes to policy at its October meeting, maintaining its US$85B per month bond
purchasing program. The Feds statement
suggested they have not seen significant economic impact from a three-week
government shutdown last month.
London Inter-Bank Offered Rate (LIBOR)
Debacle [552]:
-- Rabobank (Netherlands), a cooperative bank founded by
Dutch farmers, admitted its role in the LIBOR-rigging scandal and has been
fined a total of €774M (£663M, US$1.06B), after its staff were found to have
attempted to manipulate benchmark borrowing rates. Further, the bank’s chairman, Piet Moerland, resigned with
immediate effect and apologized for what he said was "inappropriate
conduct" by 30 of the bank's staff.
-- The mortgage-finance giant Fannie Mae filed a civil suit in
federal court in Manhattan against nine of the world’s largest banks for their
participation in the LIBOR interest rate manipulation scandal. The mortgage lender claims it suffered
an estimated US$800M in damages from the banks’ actions in the scandal.
-- So we don’t lose focus . . . the infamous 16, involved,
international banks are:
· Barclays [UK] – US$454M fine [550];
Singapore sanctions [600]
· Bank of America [U.S.]
– Singapore sanctions [600]
· BTMU [Japan] – Singapore sanctions [600]
· Citigroup [U.S.]
– Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Credit Suisse [Switzerland] – Singapore sanctions [600]
· Deutsche Bank [Germany] – US$654M LIBOR profit [578]; set aside €500M (US$641M) for
LIBOR liability [589]; Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Lloyds TSB [UK]
· HSBC [UK] – Singapore
sanctions [600]
· HBOS
[UK]
· JPMorgan Chase [U.S.]
– Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Norinchuckin [Japan]
· Rabobank
[Netherlands] – fined €774M (£663M, US$1.06B), CEO resigned, 30 others censured
[620]
· RBC
[Canada]
· RBS [UK] – £390M (US$612.6M) in
fines, 21 employees involved [582]; Singapore sanctions [600]
· UBS [Switzerland] – US$1.5B fine, two charged [575]; Singapore sanctions [600]
· West
LB [Germany]
Added to the list by the Monetary Authority of Singapore [600]:
·
ING [Netherlands] – Singapore sanctions [600]
· BNP Paribas [France] – Singapore sanctions [600]
· Crédit Agricole [France] – Singapore sanctions [600]
·
DBS [Singapore] – Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Oversea-Chinese Banking Corporation [Singapore] –
Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Standard Chartered [UK] – Singapore sanctions [600]
·
United Overseas Bank
[Singapore] – Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Ltd. [Australia] – Singapore
sanctions [600]
·
Macquarie [Australia] – Singapore sanctions [600]
·
Commerzbank [Germany] – Singapore sanctions [600]
Others involved:
·
ICAP [UK] – fined US$87M + three executives charged [615]
I trust none of us will lose sight of what these banks have
done. Lest we forget!
Continuation from
Update no.618:
This is actually round
four:
“I never
suggested we make anything public in any direct way, nor did I suggest anything
unilateral. Indeed I did not advocated for any specific action. I stated that
knowing secrecy to be extremely difficult or impossible will change the entire
spy community's situation, therefore changing their actions.”
My reply to round four:
My
apologies as apparently I misinterpreted your words.
The
IC’s means and methods are going to change or have already changed. Once compromised [by Snowden], they are
no longer surreptitious and thus subject to counter-measures and more
susceptible to mis-information campaigns.
Considering
the number of people who collect, analyze, work with and have access to SCI
material, I’d say the USG’s success at keeping secrets is pretty damn
good. The greatest threats are the
politicos, who are motivated by an entirely bizarre, crazy set of factors of
party parochialism and self-election.
Snowden was quite unusual.
He apparently had root access to many, if not most or all, of the
computer systems. I suspect rather
few people had the practical access he did. I am fairly certain the IC has already taken steps to limit
such vulnerabilities in the future.
. . . round five:
“Ultimately, transparency will increase because the nature
and extreme usefulness of the Internet lends itself to openness, not secrecy.
More than techniques must change to meet this change in the nature of the
world.
“In the meantime, the threat to secrecy, it seems to me,
comes primarily from sloppiness rather than intent. Privatization aggravates
that by introducing the profit motive. Thus, Edward Snowden and others who
oppose the system, or come to oppose it, slide into their positions unnoticed
by those whose positions are set up to support quantity rather than quality.”
. . . my reply to round five:
Re:
Internet. Very good point. The Internet has already altered a lot
of things, and as you note, the Internet will probably change the intelligence
process as well.
Re:
sloppiness. Again, very good
points. The USG was clearly sloppy
in supervising a contractor who had root access to a vast array of SCI material
and even more clearly had nothing even close to “need to know.” That reality means those in the USG who
had responsibility for clearances and access to SCI material. The USG made a lot of mistakes to
enable Snowden’s betrayal.
Comments
and contributions from Update no.619:
Comment to the Blog:
“We might call your largesse fund by some other name, but
it’s as reasonable an idea as I have seen to date for allowing politicians to
repay their contributors. I still favor public financing of campaigns, though.
So long as our elected officials account to anyone other than the public as a
whole for election money, corruption will continue.
“The economy continues to confuse forecasters. That supports
the Federal Reserve’s proposal to require the big banks to have reasonable
reserves. Think of those rules as having similarity to traffic laws. People (or
banks) will never really like them, but they protect all parties.
“On one of last week’s topics, I heard on a radio
agricultural report today that the Ohio River does indeed have “an outdated
system of locks and dams.” Perhaps Senator McConnell has a legitimate object
for his largesse, although I surely agree that his timing could have been far
better.
“I am not sure how you come by your assertions of Edward
Snowden’s (and many others’) mental state and intentions. Mind reading is not
merely an inexact science; it’s not any kind of science. My guess of Mr.
Snowden’s intention is that he intended to improve the United States in the
long term by restraining those who would do such foolishness as spying on
Angela Merkel’s cell phone and such grossly unethical behaviors as the dozen or
more known instances of personal spying on spouses and others.”
My response to the
Blog:
Re:
Largesse Fund. We can call it
anything; I was simply calling what it would be . . . solely to constraint the
corruption of Members of Congress.
Public financing is not the answer either. Yet, it would be better now that the Supremes have opened
the gates of hell with their Citizens United decision.
Re:
banks. IMHO, the banking reform
necessary to minimize the impact of a market collapse like the Fall of 2008;
however, these are positive moves, it seems to me.
Re:
dams & locks. As I
acknowledged, the Ohio River project may well be a worthy endeavor. If it is, it can and should stand alone
with proper scrutiny. Hiding it
away is like sneaking around in the death of night; it looks, smells and tastes
bad by the way it was done. And,
it is morally worse, the Minority Leader will condemn President Obama for
spending too much. It is hypocrisy
and duplicity that enrages me.
Re:
Snowden. I make no claims to
reading anyone’s mind. I only see
the dots and connect them to create a picture. I simply report upon what I see in that picture. He may have had the best of intentions;
however, his chosen path to achieve his objective(s) was about as wrong as it
could be.
Re:
espionage. It is a nasty business,
much like the sausage-making process.
This kind of illumination is NEVER healthy. The Church Commission hobbled the IC for decades. The U.S. IC had essentially no
effective Human Intelligence (HumInt) when compared to the British, Russians,
French, Chinese, et cetera. Then,
9/11 struck our blind eye and we scrambled to recover; good people died as a
consequence. Now, here we are yet
again back in 1976. Instead of
dealing with the actual abuser, we are heading down a road to once again hobble
our entire intelligence apparatus.
I may be the lone voice in the wind, but I shall speak out vigorously
against restriction . . . reform, yes, absolutely; restrictions on access, yes;
list goes on. The issue is not
what we collect, it is how we use the information that is critical.
. . . a follow-up comment:
“If public financing of elections is ‘not the answer’ and we
have clearly never had a way to make private financing anything other than
corrupt, what do you propose? Your ‘largesse fun’ will not prevent corruption;
it will merely make those involved find yet another way around the intent of
the law. When large amounts of money from interested parties finance elections,
those interests will be served regardless of the letter of the law.”
My follow-up response:
Perhaps
a Freudian slip: “largesse fun” vice “Largesse Fund”; nonetheless, you have a
valid point. My proposal is an
attempt to constrain the corruption in Congress. As long as the Supremes’ Citizen United decision
remains law and money remains speech, control of Congress will remain with the
monied elite, and We, the People, must endure a new royalty until the next
rebellion. The best we can hope
for is to get the money into the daylight, so at least we can see it.
My very best wishes to all. Take care of yourselves and each other.
Cheers,
Cap :-)
2 comments:
Cap, I see a contradiction in that you believe Snowden's information should remain secret but at the same time you want to verify it.
Also, I do not understand how you reconcile keeping the collecting and use of personal information about Americans not accused of crimes secret if it is attributed to “the national interest” but not if the information is openly used to suppress civil rights or to pursue personal vendettas. So long as secrecy and the lack of accountability continue, it matters not a whit what excuse the perpetrators give. I have to assume that you trust the government's stories about their targets and the targets' deeds, but I dislike the idea that you would be so foolish given the history of the spy community. That history includes the Watergate abuses but is by no means limited to that incident. People back to the beginning of time have proven that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Your suspicions of the Guardian match mine of anything touched by Rupert Murdoch, the Australian who controls too much the the US news scene by way of Fox News.
I was unable to access the article that I presume discusses term limits due to an ad that would not close. Term limits sound “instinctively” good so long as we assume that new office-holders are less corrupt, as a group, than those who have already held office for years. That assumption needs much more testing, but even if it proves true another issue arises. Whether or not newly elected officials are more honest, by definition they have less experience. That leaves them vulnerable to the likes of Grover Norquist, Karl Rove, and other manipulators who need not seek election. New Senators and Representatives are also more vulnerable because they face a higher risk of not being elected or re-elected (assuming term limits allow a second term) than more established politicians, thus strengthening the influence of campaign contributors that we agree already have too much pull in DC.
You did not make clear at all whom you expect to “vote in unison” or what you expect the “next revolution” to encompass. Much more clarity would be necessary to a coherent discussion.
Calvin,
Re: contradiction. If the Snowden “documents” had not already been released, I would agree; however, they have purportedly been released to the Press. On an issue this important, I do not trust the Press to make those judgments for me. Nonetheless, aside from the legality, I was simply confessing my curiosity to read the actual words and try to place such documents into context. At the end of the day, I do NOT have a “need to know” such classified information and neither does the public, thus my contention they should have remained as far from public scrutiny as possible.
Re: intelligence. Let us use an illustrative example. Elliott Spitzer was hardly the first politician to avail himself of the services of a professional; yet, he was pilloried by the politicos of the opposing party that happened to have access to the warrantless surveillance data. The data collected had absolutely nothing to do with the War on Islamic Fascism; however, it was dynamite in the political arena. Some Bush administration hack got access to it and convinced Spitzer to self-immolate himself. To me, it is a classic example of why we need filtration between the IC and the politicos. The IC would not have wasted another minute on such trivial, meaningless information. They have enough on their plates as it is. It was not the collection that violated Spitzer’s fundamental right to privacy, it was the politicos who decided to use it for political purposes rather than as intended. In the intelligence biz, you just never know when an innocuous, miniscule factoid will provide enormous clarity to events at hand. I do not want the IC restricted from irrelevant information, because they just might find important relevance. I think the appropriate restriction is on access and use of IC information. In the Spitzer case, whomever leaked that information should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and I would enthusiastically support expanding criminal sanctions against those who abuse intelligence information.
Re: news media. Agreed. However, with the preponderance of the Press leaning well into the liberal end of the spectrum, we need Fox News to at least make an attempt at balance.
Re: article. I presume you are referring to the Sowell article. If so, not sure why; it is a public document now. Would you like me to send the text to you?
Re: “vote in unison.” I was referring to the majority of voters in each congressional district choosing to vote out an incumbent and vote in someone more trustworthy. Yes, of course, the new guy may well be less trustworthy, but he will only have two years to enrich himself as opposed to 30-40 years. I place the likes of Norquist, Rove, Soros, et al in the category of lobbyists . . . for their political causes.
Re: “next revolution.” As we continue to anoint and accept the monied elite as our new nobility with their royal prerogative and their consequent corrosive influence on weak politicians, I see us moving closer and closer to taxation without representation – an essential catalyst for the last revolution.
There ya go.
Cheers,
Cap
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